Of course this revelation that Netanyahu would have given Assad the Golan is politically timed to damage Netanyahu's chances of re-election. But it nevertheless worrying.
Now that we see just how much a peace treaty is worth to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, we must be pretty sure that Netanyahu would not give away strategic land again in exchange for a piece of paper which as in Morsy's words will be subject to re-negotiation. For Muhammad Morsy of Egypt the only value to the peace treaty with Israel is that terrorists will be able to fire at Israel from the Sinai at no cost to himself. As long as egyptian soldiers are not harmed by Hamas (Gazan MB) then he will be happy for terrorists to attack Israel. All this whilst egyptian forces remain inviolate,under the terms of the peace treaty.
Of course Morsy will plead that he needs more troops and tanks to re-arm the Sinai so as to clear out the place of terrorists. Israelis aren't anymore so stupid as to believe this. The only use for egyptian tanks in Sinai is to build up an offensive capacity there against Israel.
We must not forget that Morsy only a month before his election screamed at his adoring crowd that Jihad is the only way. A deputy leader of the MB then said that Jerusalem would be liberated in the coming year.
And today we have Mohammed Badie the "Supreme Guide of the Muslim Brotherhood" espousing that:
The Muslim Brotherhood and associated islamist have a long list of grievances that can never, ever be satisfied. Even if they destroyed Israel the grievances would move onto neighbouring countries and the the West. And that's because the caliphate is at the core of their beliefs. Their language, in arabic only is violent. In English they recite their demands in terms of human rights, of racism against muslims, of islamophobia etc.
I still try and believe that Netanyahu will protect Israel and will be prepared to draw Iran's nuclear teeth before it's too late. There does not seem to be any alternative than Netanyahu as there is no one of the calibre of a Jabotinsky, Begin or Ben Gurion around. Netanyahu unlike Barak has his heart in the right place, knows that our enemies do not want peace in exchange for land, but rather the defeat of Israel and its utter destruction.
Were they to succeed there would be nothing left of Israel, it would go back to the desert, just as the farmlands and farm industries developed by the jews of Gush Katif before they were forced out of Gaza.
Israel must never again give away any land. Peace comes through strength, now giving away land, in making an already tiny land smaller. Giving away land invites attack. When Israel finally learns this, it will have peace, not before.
Yedioth Ahronoth reports that in late 2010 PM, Barak conducted secret indirect talks with Assad; US documents reveal Israel agreed to return to June 4, 1967 lines in exchange for peace deal; negotiations were interrupted by uprising against Syrian president
The onset of the rebellion against Bashar Assad in January 2011 interrupted intense negotiations between the Syrian president and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, during which the latter agreed to a full Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights in exchange for a peace agreement, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday.
In the spring of 2010, Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak launched secret indirect negotiations with Assad through American mediator Frederick Hoff, a former commander in the Marines and an expert on border demarcation in disputed areas.
Earlier this week Hoff resigned from his post as special US envoy to the Middle East. According to the Yedioth Ahronoth report, documents written by Hoff suggest that the negotiations were based on Netanyahu's willingness to return to the June 4, 1967 lines, giving Damascus full control of the entire Golan Heights area. Israel captured the territory in the 1967 Mideast war.
American businessman and Netanyahu associate Ronald Lauder reportedly negotiated a similar deal in 1998, during Netanyahu's first term as premier. At the time, Netanyahu denied that claim.
Netanyahu's successor, Ehud Barak, also offered a Golan withdrawal for peace, but the talks failed.
According to American sources, Netanyahu and Barak agreed to withdraw to the 1967 lines in exchange for a comprehensive peace deal that would include an Israeli "expectation" for the severing of ties between Syria and Iran. However, the sources said, the burgeoning deal did not include an explicit commitment by Assad to severe ties with the Islamic Republic.
The report said the sides did not agree on a timeline for the Israeli withdrawal: Syria wanted the agreement to be implemented within one and a half to two years, while Israel asked for more time before pulling out of the region.
Yedioth quoted a senior American official as saying that the negotiations were serious and far-reaching and would have likely ended with an agreement had they not been interrupted by the uprising against Assad. The official estimated that Netanyahu resumed the talks with Assad to justify the stalemate in the negotiations with the Palestinians and because he viewed Syria as the weak link in the so called "axis of evil," which also includes Iran, Lebanon and Hezbollah.
According to the documents written by Hoff, the discussions were held at the prime minister's official residence in Jerusalem. Netanyahu and Barak kept the talks a secret, but in early 2011 a Kuwaiti newspaper reported that special US envoy Dennis Ross met Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moallem and said that Damascus was willing to resume talks with Israel and that the Jewish state was willing to return the Golan Heights. The Prime Minister's Office denied the report.
Now that we see just how much a peace treaty is worth to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, we must be pretty sure that Netanyahu would not give away strategic land again in exchange for a piece of paper which as in Morsy's words will be subject to re-negotiation. For Muhammad Morsy of Egypt the only value to the peace treaty with Israel is that terrorists will be able to fire at Israel from the Sinai at no cost to himself. As long as egyptian soldiers are not harmed by Hamas (Gazan MB) then he will be happy for terrorists to attack Israel. All this whilst egyptian forces remain inviolate,under the terms of the peace treaty.
Of course Morsy will plead that he needs more troops and tanks to re-arm the Sinai so as to clear out the place of terrorists. Israelis aren't anymore so stupid as to believe this. The only use for egyptian tanks in Sinai is to build up an offensive capacity there against Israel.
We must not forget that Morsy only a month before his election screamed at his adoring crowd that Jihad is the only way. A deputy leader of the MB then said that Jerusalem would be liberated in the coming year.
And today we have Mohammed Badie the "Supreme Guide of the Muslim Brotherhood" espousing that:
“the Zionists only understand force,” and that Arabs cannot hope to achieve justice from the Jews “through the corridors of the United Nations or through negotiations.”
The Muslim Brotherhood and associated islamist have a long list of grievances that can never, ever be satisfied. Even if they destroyed Israel the grievances would move onto neighbouring countries and the the West. And that's because the caliphate is at the core of their beliefs. Their language, in arabic only is violent. In English they recite their demands in terms of human rights, of racism against muslims, of islamophobia etc.
‘Zionists only understand the language of force and will not relent without duress,’ Badie continued. ‘This will only happen through holy Jihad, high sacrifices and all forms of resistance’
“The time has come for the Islamic nation to unite around one man for the sake of Jerusalem and Palestine,” Badie said. “The Jews have dominated the land, spread corruption on earth, spilled the blood of believers and in their actions profaned holy places, including their own.”Barak will never change. Even when a Brotherhood tanks has its barrel aimed at his own house he'll still be in denial, will understand the palestinian arab suicide bomber, will understand arab 'grievances', will be only too willing to give away Israel's territory until its enemies can just coast down the road to victory.
I still try and believe that Netanyahu will protect Israel and will be prepared to draw Iran's nuclear teeth before it's too late. There does not seem to be any alternative than Netanyahu as there is no one of the calibre of a Jabotinsky, Begin or Ben Gurion around. Netanyahu unlike Barak has his heart in the right place, knows that our enemies do not want peace in exchange for land, but rather the defeat of Israel and its utter destruction.
Were they to succeed there would be nothing left of Israel, it would go back to the desert, just as the farmlands and farm industries developed by the jews of Gush Katif before they were forced out of Gaza.
Israel must never again give away any land. Peace comes through strength, now giving away land, in making an already tiny land smaller. Giving away land invites attack. When Israel finally learns this, it will have peace, not before.
Report: Netanyahu agreed to full Golan Heights withdrawal
Yedioth Ahronoth reports that in late 2010 PM, Barak conducted secret indirect talks with Assad; US documents reveal Israel agreed to return to June 4, 1967 lines in exchange for peace deal; negotiations were interrupted by uprising against Syrian president
The onset of the rebellion against Bashar Assad in January 2011 interrupted intense negotiations between the Syrian president and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, during which the latter agreed to a full Israeli withdrawal from the Golan Heights in exchange for a peace agreement, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Friday.
In the spring of 2010, Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak launched secret indirect negotiations with Assad through American mediator Frederick Hoff, a former commander in the Marines and an expert on border demarcation in disputed areas.
Earlier this week Hoff resigned from his post as special US envoy to the Middle East. According to the Yedioth Ahronoth report, documents written by Hoff suggest that the negotiations were based on Netanyahu's willingness to return to the June 4, 1967 lines, giving Damascus full control of the entire Golan Heights area. Israel captured the territory in the 1967 Mideast war.
American businessman and Netanyahu associate Ronald Lauder reportedly negotiated a similar deal in 1998, during Netanyahu's first term as premier. At the time, Netanyahu denied that claim.
Netanyahu's successor, Ehud Barak, also offered a Golan withdrawal for peace, but the talks failed.
According to American sources, Netanyahu and Barak agreed to withdraw to the 1967 lines in exchange for a comprehensive peace deal that would include an Israeli "expectation" for the severing of ties between Syria and Iran. However, the sources said, the burgeoning deal did not include an explicit commitment by Assad to severe ties with the Islamic Republic.
The report said the sides did not agree on a timeline for the Israeli withdrawal: Syria wanted the agreement to be implemented within one and a half to two years, while Israel asked for more time before pulling out of the region.
Yedioth quoted a senior American official as saying that the negotiations were serious and far-reaching and would have likely ended with an agreement had they not been interrupted by the uprising against Assad. The official estimated that Netanyahu resumed the talks with Assad to justify the stalemate in the negotiations with the Palestinians and because he viewed Syria as the weak link in the so called "axis of evil," which also includes Iran, Lebanon and Hezbollah.
According to the documents written by Hoff, the discussions were held at the prime minister's official residence in Jerusalem. Netanyahu and Barak kept the talks a secret, but in early 2011 a Kuwaiti newspaper reported that special US envoy Dennis Ross met Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Moallem and said that Damascus was willing to resume talks with Israel and that the Jewish state was willing to return the Golan Heights. The Prime Minister's Office denied the report.
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